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stevethecarr

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vitamin a deficiency
« on: May 06, 2007, 09:17:59 AM »
I took my tortoise to the vet yesterday because she is having trouble with one of her eyes, aparently she has a vitamin a deficiency. The vet told me to give ger trout pellets supplemented with cod liver oil. I can not find trout pellets anywhere so is there any other way of giving her the needed vitamin a? I suppose she has had this problem for a while now...when I bought her she had this gunk in her eye and it has gotten worse since. I figured the vet would give her a vitamin a shot but they arent reptile specialists so they dont have access to that. Someone help!

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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2007, 11:21:10 AM »
Carrots, spinach, kale, and sweet potatoes are high in Vitamin A.
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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2007, 09:46:56 PM »
wait a minute I thought vitamin A is not good for torts? to much and there skin cracks open?

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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2007, 03:36:18 AM »
Like anything, too much or too little can cause problems.  Most of the problems with an overdose of Vitamin A is because the tort was given an injection.  That's why we strive to feed our torts a balanced diet, so they can acquire their vitamins naturally.  With a natural vitamin that is obtained from food any excess that is not used by the body will be excreted and so will not cause any problems whereas a synthetic vitamin (not derived from natural sources) any excess that the body does not use will remain in the body and can build up to toxic levels. 
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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2007, 06:39:33 AM »
Thanks for the help. Any idea how long is will take for this problem to go away?

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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2007, 10:21:57 AM »
I forgot to ask after your initial post if the vet is not a reptile specialist how do they know she has a Vitamin A deficiency?

Thanks for the help. Any idea how long is will take for this problem to go away?

Not a clue.  I would feed her the Kale and Spinach everyday mixed with her regular greens and a whole baby peeled carrot cut in disks every day but I'm not sure I would feed sweet potato at all.  My vet suggested feeding my little one sweet potato along with her regular diet when they thought she might have a Vitamin A deficiency but neither of my torts would eat it and it is very high in starch.
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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 06:16:29 PM »
The vets work at different animal hospitals so what I mean is that particular animal hospital doesnt have the necessary supplies to give vitamin a shots, the vet herself is a reptile vet. She said if we need to she can get the vitamin a shot, but they dont have it on premises. Thanks for all your help.

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 07:48:39 PM »
She said if we need to she can get the vitamin a shot, but they dont have it on premises.

She didn't tell you how to increase your torts Vitamin A intake safely by adding to her diet?  What is your torts normal diet?  Have you tried Joe's TNT?  It is a natural vitamin and mineral supplement.

Thanks for all your help.

You're welcome.
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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2007, 11:42:43 AM »
I have TNT and have had it since I got my tortoise (it's great). The problem is she had this since I got her but at the time her eye wasnt as bad so I thought it may have been from dehydration. I feed her a variety of greens such as ; dandelions, kale, raddichio, spinach...most of the greens listed on the website.

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2007, 12:39:19 PM »
I would feed grated carrots and high vit A greens and see if it helps.  I know carrots are supposed to be limited but if it helps the torts eye, I would do it.

I read this about tortoises...

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For example, vitamin A deficiency (hypovitaminosis A) causes thickening of the lining tissues of the eyelids and nose and may lead to secondary bacterial infections. When a bacterial infection affects the nasal sinuses (sinusitis), the discharge tends to be copious, opaque and thick (mucopurulent rhinitis) and may be one-sided (unilateral).

Does she have a runny nose?

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I suppose she has had this problem for a while now...when I bought her she had this gunk in her eye and it has gotten worse since.

I'm not a vet, but it sounds like she needs more than vit a if she has gunk in her eye.

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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2007, 02:35:02 PM »
I took my tortoise to the vet yesterday because she is having trouble with one of her eyes, aparently she has a vitamin a deficiency. The vet told me to give ger trout pellets supplemented with cod liver oil. I can not find trout pellets anywhere so is there any other way of giving her the needed vitamin a? I suppose she has had this problem for a while now...when I bought her she had this gunk in her eye and it has gotten worse since. I figured the vet would give her a vitamin a shot but they arent reptile specialists so they dont have access to that. Someone help!

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I sell trout pellets at http://carolinapetsupply.com

However don't feed it to russian torts. Its great for box turtle etc...but not for russian torts

Instead feed dark greens such as dandelion and turnip greens. Actually its pretty rare for Rt's to be deficient.

Most of the time eye problems are from too dry conditions

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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2007, 09:13:45 AM »
My conditions definitely are not too dry. I have my tank set up almost exacyly as shown on the website and humidity usually averages around 60. For the last week or so I have been feeding her dandelion, kale, spinach, and carrots. The vet gave me ointment to put on her eye and it seems to have taken the irritation away as shes not rubbing it any more and the swelling has almost completely gone away. The whiteness in her eye seems to have gotten slightly better. I'm going to give it a few more weeks and see how things turn out.

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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2007, 03:46:23 PM »
My conditions definitely are not too dry. I have my tank set up almost exacyly as shown on the website and humidity usually averages around 60.

Is this air humidity or moisture content in the substrate?

The vet gave me ointment to put on her eye and it seems to have taken the irritation away as shes not rubbing it any more and the swelling has almost completely gone away.

When torts dig into the substrate if it is too dry it will stick to their eyes and they will rub at their eyes with their leg to try to remove the irritation.  Perhaps if the substrate was to dry at one time she rubbed at her eye in an effort to remove the substrate but rubbed it into her eye instead which caused an irritation which in turn produced the white "gunk"? 
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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2007, 04:36:03 PM »
The vet checked my torts eye for scratches (I don't know exactly what she did, she used some drops which go into the eye) and she didnt have any. I don't think it's from the substrate because she had it before I put her in the sand/cocconut fiber and I keep it moist enough usually. And I am measuring humidity.

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Re: vitamin a deficiency
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2007, 05:17:23 AM »
Please don't feed spinach daily...that binds to the calcium and they then can't absorb it. Last thing someone needs is a vit A and calcium issues!

When my wood turtle had Vitamin A defficancy my vet told me to give her lots of yellow and orange veggies. Yellow squash, carrots etc. Find fresh pesticide free stuff and wash it. Don't go with any fish pellets or anything else, over doseing is just as bad as under doseing. Feed the veggies daily for a few weeks. Then go back to a normal diet.

Also what I do with all of mine, on advice from someone who has been dealing with turtles and tortoises since the 60's and has won several awards for conservation etc, use human centrum vitamins. You can get the store brand it has the same thing in it. Crush one tablet and sprinkle it on the food you give the tortoise one a week...spred the tablet out, or give it all on one day doesn't matter but one tablet a week for a russian.That will make sure it gets the vitamins and minerals it needs without over dosing. Give the veggies also. After a few weeks the eye issues should clear. Tortoise metabolism is slower then ours and it will take a few weeks before it goes away, but with the right stuff it will get there.
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